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	<title>Comments on: A view from both sides of the street</title>
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		<title>By: Steven Hales</title>
		<link>http://takingthehelloutofhealthcare.com/blog/2008/09/17/a-view-from-both-sides-of-the-street/comment-page-1/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Hales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,  The NHS data show that total hospital volume changed very little over the last two years but wait times improved from 48% meeting goal to 90% meeting goal.  One conclusion is that since total volume did not change queueing is occuring elsewhere in the system or that discriminatory practices are not being practiced as frequently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,  The NHS data show that total hospital volume changed very little over the last two years but wait times improved from 48% meeting goal to 90% meeting goal.  One conclusion is that since total volume did not change queueing is occuring elsewhere in the system or that discriminatory practices are not being practiced as frequently.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://takingthehelloutofhealthcare.com/blog/2008/09/17/a-view-from-both-sides-of-the-street/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did you get your figures of 1.5 years and 2.5 years waiting times for England and Scotland?

I think this could be way off the mark as the NHS is currently working towards 18 week waits, see 

http://www.18weeks.nhs.uk/Content.aspx?path=/What-is-18-weeks/About-the-programme</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did you get your figures of 1.5 years and 2.5 years waiting times for England and Scotland?</p>
<p>I think this could be way off the mark as the NHS is currently working towards 18 week waits, see </p>
<p><a  href="http://www.18weeks.nhs.uk/Content.aspx?path=/What-is-18-weeks/About-the-programme" rel="nofollow">http://www.18weeks.nhs.uk/Content.aspx?path=/What-is-18-weeks/About-the-programme</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://takingthehelloutofhealthcare.com/blog/2008/09/17/a-view-from-both-sides-of-the-street/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the focus of healthcare has been and continues to be retrospective and not preventative.  The notion of taking care of something before it breaks or makes a noise is not typically what people do.  We see this mind set in everyday life.  Taking care of our cars, our homes, etc.  We should all take a lesson from the farming industry who are used to taking care of things so they don&#039;t break. Planting in the spring so you have crops in the fall.  An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure as they say.  A pretty simple concept.

So in order to change from an acute care model and lean more towards wellness we need to somehow change the mindset of people. Show the value of prevention to them.

We humans are showing that we have little regard for healthcare and our own health until we get sick or injured.  To use your words we drink, we smoke, we eat way too much and then we sit around and groan that we have no energy, our clothes don&#039;t fit and we can&#039;t touch our toes.  Well everything has a price - everything.

On a side note, your new web design is quite nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the focus of healthcare has been and continues to be retrospective and not preventative.  The notion of taking care of something before it breaks or makes a noise is not typically what people do.  We see this mind set in everyday life.  Taking care of our cars, our homes, etc.  We should all take a lesson from the farming industry who are used to taking care of things so they don&#8217;t break. Planting in the spring so you have crops in the fall.  An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure as they say.  A pretty simple concept.</p>
<p>So in order to change from an acute care model and lean more towards wellness we need to somehow change the mindset of people. Show the value of prevention to them.</p>
<p>We humans are showing that we have little regard for healthcare and our own health until we get sick or injured.  To use your words we drink, we smoke, we eat way too much and then we sit around and groan that we have no energy, our clothes don&#8217;t fit and we can&#8217;t touch our toes.  Well everything has a price &#8211; everything.</p>
<p>On a side note, your new web design is quite nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Betty Chaney</title>
		<link>http://takingthehelloutofhealthcare.com/blog/2008/09/17/a-view-from-both-sides-of-the-street/comment-page-1/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Betty Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good view from &#039;both sides&#039;.  The only aspect that I feel could help others to a Great degree is the &#039;passing on&#039; of unopened/sealed medication that a patient can no longer use.  

As a cancer survivor I had my pill chemo of Thal. removed from my treatment plan but could not contact the mail pharmacy in time to stop the shipment.  When it arrived at my office I refused the shipment thinking it would be returned to the pharmacy and sold to someone else in need, that my insurance would not be charged.   Silly me!   The pharmacy called and questioned me and I advised them why I did what I did....and they then said my insurance would still be billed for the chemo AND I would have to pay my co-pay!     

***So, not only does washing the hands, exercising and eating healthy foods help with health problems....but so would common sense in regard to the insurance carriers not paying for such situations.

Aspects of health care start with common sense but get messed up somewhere along the way.  This is added cost to the industry and very frustrating for us who would like to pass along health care products that are sealed and safe for others.    

I believe a bill is in the House or somewhere in the bowels of PA government to address this matter....but think of how much is already &#039;wasted&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good view from &#8216;both sides&#8217;.  The only aspect that I feel could help others to a Great degree is the &#8216;passing on&#8217; of unopened/sealed medication that a patient can no longer use.  </p>
<p>As a cancer survivor I had my pill chemo of Thal. removed from my treatment plan but could not contact the mail pharmacy in time to stop the shipment.  When it arrived at my office I refused the shipment thinking it would be returned to the pharmacy and sold to someone else in need, that my insurance would not be charged.   Silly me!   The pharmacy called and questioned me and I advised them why I did what I did&#8230;.and they then said my insurance would still be billed for the chemo AND I would have to pay my co-pay!     </p>
<p>***So, not only does washing the hands, exercising and eating healthy foods help with health problems&#8230;.but so would common sense in regard to the insurance carriers not paying for such situations.</p>
<p>Aspects of health care start with common sense but get messed up somewhere along the way.  This is added cost to the industry and very frustrating for us who would like to pass along health care products that are sealed and safe for others.    </p>
<p>I believe a bill is in the House or somewhere in the bowels of PA government to address this matter&#8230;.but think of how much is already &#8216;wasted&#8217;.</p>
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